This conversation was an online panel discussion on 29 November 2023 with Katherine Franke, Shahd Hammouri, Ardi Imseis, Darryl Li, John Reynolds, and Nahed Samour. It is published in three parts: 1. Influences, 2. The Role of Law, 3. Academic Freedom, BDS & Contemporary Tactics. The panel was organized by Usha Natarajan and sponsored by Sijal Institute for Arabic Language and Culture; TWAIL Review; Center for Comparative Muslim Studies at Simon Fraser University; UWIN RAACES at University of Windsor; Social Justice Center at Kwantlen Polytechnic University; and Middle East Studies at University of British Columbia.